The Everyday Mystic

Beyond the Binary: How to Integrate Intuition and Strategy for Sustainable Scale w/ Jana Niksa

• Corissa Saint Laurent • Episode 116

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For many conscious founders, there is a constant tension between vision and execution. We often swing like a pendulum between the two, either meditating on a mountaintop while the business stalls, or grinding out sales calls while our soul withers.

In this episode, Jana Niksa, the Authentic Sales Coach, joins Corissa to dismantle this binary. She introduces the concept of The Woo and the Do: a framework for integrating high-level spiritual alignment with grounded, tactical strategy. Jana shares her journey from a 21-year career in corporate sales to a spiritual awakening that forced her to reinvent how she defines success.

They dive deep into the Visionary's Dilemma: how to maintain your energetic frequency while building landing pages, managing teams, and closing deals. Jana explains why "following your bliss" isn't a pass to avoid hard work, but a strategic filter for finding the most efficient way to get it done.

In this episode, we cover:

  • The Integration Framework: Why separating your spirituality from your business strategy creates a split energy that blocks growth.
  • The Landing Page Reality Check: Moving beyond the fluff of flow-only business to the reality of operational execution.
  • The Impatience Trap: Why high-achieving leaders try to force the bloom of their business, and how to trust natural timing.
  • Operationalizing Intuition: A practical audit to determine which tasks drain you vs. energize you, and how to restructure your workflow accordingly. 
  • Conscious Course Correction: How to catch yourself when you slip back into hustle mode and gently toggle back to alignment.

Notable Quotes:

  • "How did your bliss build the landing page?" — Jana Niksa
  • "Your business is an unfolding... we don't go outside and look at a rose and force it to bloom." — Jana Niksa
  • "It's a practice, not a perfect... We did not come here to be sparkly fairy dust." — Jana Niksa

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Corissa Saint Laurent:

Hey, beautiful souls. Join me in welcoming our guest, Jana Niksa. She is the authentic sales coach and conversion queen and the host of a podcast I was on called Awakened Entrepreneur Revolution. She's truly walking the talk of mixing the woo and the do, which is her tagline that I love so much, which is what attracted me to her podcast in the first place. She helps people to mix that soulful insight and practical wisdom that inspires and energizes with very tactical, practical, strategic things that they need to create the kind of impact that they want and live the life that they actually truly want to live. And it's a mix you'll hear us in this conversation talk a lot about both and and all the gray area or the beautiful color rainbow area that exists between all things, that it isn't a this or a that. And it's not a one tactic that works versus all the other tactics that don't work. As you'll hear her say, all strategies work. It's really you, who you are, the energy and work and the intention, and maybe even the point along your journey that you're on as the key factor and whether something's actually going to move for you or not, is actually going to change for you or not, or become the thing that makes you like her an international best-selling author and a speaker and a founder of these high-ticket programs and everything that she's doing and really living into by combining spirituality and business. You'll hear about her old life and what really triggered this change for her to move into and awaken to herself as a spiritual being, having this human life, and how that's completely and utterly changed the way that she works in her business, lives her life, and does the incredible things she does in the world. You're listening to The Everyday Mystic, where we share advice and stories grounded in the practical and supercharged by the spiritual. I'm your host, Corissa Saint Laurent, and I'm on a mission to demystify the mystical and transform your everyday life into one of greater meaning, higher purpose, and true joy. If you're ready to tap into your inner wisdom and the energy of all that is, you're in the right place, and we're so happy you're here. Let's get this party started. Hi, Jana. It's so good to have you on Everyday Mystic. Thanks so much for joining us.

Jana Niksa:

Thank you so much for having me, Corissa. I'm so excited to have this conversation with you.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Me too. I loved our first conversation. Well, I guess which was our second conversation because we had had one to get to know each other, but our first podcast conversation where I got to be on your show and just loved it so much. So I'm really happy to have you here in the other seat.

Jana Niksa:

Yeah, it's actually really cool. I've been doing so many recordings, you know, for Awakened Entrepreneur Revolution, my podcast. I haven't been in the seat in a minute. So I'm like, let's go.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Yes. Yeah, it's it's fun. It's different, isn't it? I feel like the um being the guest versus being the host, I didn't realize when I first started podcasting how different it was gonna be. And I wasn't great at it at first. I'm not saying I'm amazing now, I'm just saying I've learned a lot through the process of two years of being in this seat. And instead of in the okay, this person is drawing things out of me as we talk and opening up the space for me to share. Whereas you get on the other side and tables are turned. And not every host hosts the same, as you know, some people just let you speak and you just go. Some people are super pointed. I was on a podcast actually recently, and he interrupted me very frequently as I was talking because he wanted to go in a different direction. Not a completely different direction, but it was like something I said sparked a thread for him that tied into, I guess, whatever his agenda was. And I flowed with that, went with that, but it was a it was a very jarring experience. So we all do things differently. What's your way? I mean, obviously I experienced it, but like what's the what's the thing that you love about hosting a show that makes it a big part of your business that you're doing this so regularly?

Jana Niksa:

There's so many layers to that because you know, the the entire reason we started the show, you know, it's called Awakened Entrepreneur Revolution, right? And so the whole premise was a couple of things. It was, let's not do it the way everybody says you have to do it. And I want to have conversations with people who are doing things differently. So it's it's all about trailblazing, it's all about evolution, um, especially in this space of the healing, the coaching. And just it's so interesting, you know, having all these conversations with people because, you know, we're already light workers and so different. And it's so funny how then we came into the coaching space and other people, you know, we broke out of corporate and all the things. And then it was like, now get in this box. So the whole premise of it is like taking your power back, right? And hearing stories around that because we do things differently. We're more consciously aware, consciously evolved, and we don't want the cookie cutter type of thing. So, first sort of layer to that was just like having these conversations, like nothing scripted. We don't know where it's gonna go. But my biggest, you know, the best ideas are born out of necessity, right? And so my whole thing early on starting my business was like, well, how do you be and do? You know, I feel inspired to move in this direction, but the rules say I have to go in this direction. And so that's kind of like what inspired the whole, the whole thing. Because I was curious. I wanted to have like, you know, especially spiritual entrepreneurs who were like, just follow your bliss. And it's like, how did your bliss build the landing page? I'm gonna need you to do that. I'm confused a little. So anyway, I mean, that was sort of like the dual purpose of it, right? Is like, let's not overcomplicate this. Like, let's just get in and have fun. And then also, how did your bliss build the landing page? You know? And so I think what's beautiful is the more we do the inner work and we trust ourselves, the more we do just trust the process and letting it flow.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Yeah. You started with similar to me because you wanted to have those conversations. You wanted to have those conversations, you wanted to unpack this information, you wanted to personally learn these things from these people's stories and from their methodologies and their strategies. And I think that's a beautiful reason to do this because having a show, just like having an anything, requires a lot of energy, a lot of, I don't even, I won't call it work because it doesn't feel like work to me. I love it so much that it's just a part of my day. And I'm going to be in line with my own truth of being an awakened entrepreneur. It's setting up my business, my entrepreneurial life to be a reflection of my purpose, my joy, and all the things that are leading to this further deeper awakening. So I love that you've combined all of that in your brand and in your podcast to not only have the, okay, well, we're going to do some real things here. In order to have a business in this day and age, we've got to get the landing page done. We've we've got to have the website. We we want to have a podcast. We want to have these tangible, tactical, strategic things, but then we also want to flow and be in grace and be in our bliss and our joy when we're doing it. So combining those two things is exactly where I'm at and exactly where the everyday mystic is. And I just love that you're doing that because I know you had a traditional sales background before. This is a newer, new-ish kind of incarnation, right? So tell us a little bit about your earlier conventional life. What was it that sparked this shift and this change into becoming an awakened entrepreneur?

Jana Niksa:

I love this question because I always tell my clients, because everybody just wants it now. Like they want all the things they wanted yesterday, right? Like that's the culture we live in. But your business isn't unfolding. Some will call it a remembering, some will call it a becoming, but we don't go outside and look at a rose and like force it to bloom. And so this question takes course over decades. It started with me growing up, like probably many of your listeners, and I believe you as well, which is work really hard in school and get into a good college and then get a job where you make a lot of. And that was like the plan. Like my dreams. I think the last dream I had was to like be a vet. And my dad was like, and my dad's lovely, so this is not about him, but he's like, Well, you know, you have to stick stuff up like a cat's butt. And I was like, okay, forget that. You know, all of a sudden it stopped being about possibility and it started being about practicality. So then flash forward, I do get my dream job. I got an incredible sales job within the first year of me graduating. Here I am in South Florida, way far away from home. And you know, they're like, this is what you got to say, and this is how you have to say it. And it's A, B, C, always be closing, and like all of this, like really, and I'm I am a generator, I'm a Capricorn, like I have a lot of masculine energy too. But I didn't resonate with this. Like there, for some reason, when I would hear that, like, high five, how many did you get? Like my heart would just open. It was so odd. Not even knowing, but just intuitively, it was not at my frequency. And I had no idea any of the things that I'm telling you guys now, frequency, all that, like I had no idea. So, anyway, I found my way. Unfortunately, it's a hurricane hit my territory and knocked out a lot of my offices, at least temporarily. And so there was this real beautiful moment of like, Jana, I think you you have the space now to do this the way you want to do it. That changed everything for me. You know, to even think about full circle, I mean, that's a big part of what I'm teaching now is trust yourself and that you do know. You do know. Yes, you need guidance, of course. Yes, you know, there's certain things. But flash forward like a decade, and I went through my spiritual awakening about 2014. And again, it was an unfolding. It wasn't like poof, you're awake, you're enlightened. I just started to get curious about personal development and spirituality and reality creation and manifestation and just so it was like my own personal renaissance. And I'm still in that, by the way. It took a lot longer for me to actually apply this in a career. You know, about five years ago now, I decided, okay, now it's time to really put all that you've learned from the sales world, you know, after 21 years. And then now you've got all this beautiful spirituality and all these. I was playing and like certifications and all these spaces. And that's kind of how it all cut came together. And so now I say I mix the woo and the do in sales and not sales for other corporations, but entrepreneurs have to learn to sell. They don't have to do it the way you think, but we have to learn to effectively communicate. And so now I feel like every day is just playing, you know, it's just exactly where I knew I was meant to be. But the reason I took the time with that story is it wasn't unfolding. We so want it like immediately. And thank God for my husband at the time. He's like, Jenna, you can't just quit your. I'm like, I'm ready. Let's go. We're going to buy land. I don't know, let's go to Bali. Like, I just had my second, but Brad was like, slow your roll. Ground back in. And I'm really glad that it got to unfold a little bit more gracefully. I guess what I'm saying is trust, trust the process.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

It's it is longer than people want it to be, but it is necessary because, as you said, you can't force that rose to bloom. And then if you do, you kill it. There is a very necessary, whether you want to call it your divine timing or your own timing, but for that unfolding to occur. And that's where I think the grace can be applied, is that we give ourselves grace to say, yeah, this stuff is a journey. This is why we have all these terms and metaphors around it. It's not this, just this one-time thing. It's a long, drawn out journey. It's a process. And if we don't give it that respect for it to be that way, then all we're doing is, you know, putting, I don't know, maybe just the silver bulleting our spirituality, or you know, making it seem like it has to be done in that old paradigm, in the always be closing, right? The always be awakening. Where you're just like, and actually. I think the anal, like the real world analogy of that right now is all the biohacking or the spiritual hacking that's going on with a lot of people. It's like they awakened, they had that initial spark, they had that initial aha, whatever it was. And now they're like trying to force it open, force, force, force with so much entheogens and intensity and stuff that they're ingesting and things that they're doing. And that is one way. I don't know if it necessarily makes the journey shorter, it just makes it potentially more intense. Uh so it's an interesting thing to watch. How do you feel about that as far as having had your own experience in awakening and you work with a lot of clients now who are also becoming these awakened entrepreneurs or who are, but then you must see that realm going on where people are trying to hack their way through it. How does that feel to you?

Jana Niksa:

I do see that. I see it more through the business lens, but I I can also understand where you're coming from from the awakening lens. Because I remember sitting on my meditation pillow for two years. Not straight, you guys. But I mean, yes, I was the jolly lava. No, but my husband would be like, what is it you want to do? And I'm like, I don't know yet. I just know I'm supposed to help people. And I was okay with that. Now, I mean, there were other times my ego would come in and be like, look, get on with it already. But for the most part, like I really understood that. And and I think we do do that immediately. You can tell people that have just awoken because it's like, I gotta save the world. And I love the roomy quote where it's like, you know, yesterday I was clever and I wanted to change the world, and today I'm wise and I know that I need to change myself or something along those lines. When I heard that, I realized, yeah, that's it. That's it. This isn't about like, you know, taking off to Bali and opening a retreat center overnight. And there's nothing wrong with any of that. But I really needed to respect the process and let it happen the way it needed to. And the parallel that I wanted to draw is it's the same building your business. And it's because of our conditioning. It's like the spiritual like blossoms, and then the ego comes in and goes, okay, how are we gonna do the rest? And tries to like take control over it. Such a beautiful natural process of intuitive blooming. And here comes the ego, like, all right, now what? And it's the same in business. Like we have this beautiful purpose and this vision and this desire is activated. And so you're trusting like all the magic and all the brilliance. And then again, the ego comes in and goes, hurry up. What are you waiting for? And all of a sudden we start like in this race against what? And it's like you trusted this vision to bring you on this course. You trusted this vision through your awakening, this desire, this intuitive piece. And now it's kind of like, you know, you gave the wheel over to Jesus, like Jesus, take the wheel or whatever, you know. And then you're like, never mind, now it's my turn. I'm driving again. That is the nuanced piece of this. I think that's probably the hardest for the awakened entrepreneur is because we do know better, because we've experienced it. We know better than the hustle, we know better than the overwhelm, but yet we still also can succumb to the programming. And I think that that is can be exhausting.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

It is, and it can be hard to fight all of that programming, and that's why it's programming. It's it's really psychological manipulation in order to keep us as worker bees or as you know, in that hustling grind, the limited paradigm that that is, rather than in this co-creative space that's truly expansive and truly can be where we get to live all of those dreams. Like we really literally can have all of that. We can have our cake and eat it too, right? They tell us, no, you can, right? Even through that little idiom, right? You can't have your cake and eat it too. It's like, no, actually, you can. It's just approaching life differently and totally changing that operating system, which of course does take time. So that's also part of the unfolding, right? It's the unlearning, the unprogramming, the undoing of all of that. So, yes, you can awaken, right? But then we've got to deprogram ourselves. So that takes a lot. I mean, it's just it's it's the lifetime I think of doing that, along with the reprogramming, right? So we're like simultaneously doing both. If we can manage both of those things together, it's beautiful because then we we're not just getting rid of something, but we're replacing it with something else better.

Jana Niksa:

Yeah. I mean, I I think really the key is to not go unconscious as much as possible and to notice as quickly as possible when you have kind of gone offline. We've all done that.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

To be more personal about it, like what are some of the things when you notice for yourself that you've gone unconscious again?

Jana Niksa:

Oh gosh. I mean, one is really can be my kids. I mean, I love them. And you know, I'm I'm down there and I'll be meditating. And I'm like, yes, I'm divine source consciousness, and it's beautiful, and I feel electric. And then I have to get them up for school five times and I'm finally get up. You know. And it's so it's those things. It's the very mundane, at least for me, pieces, especially when I don't feel seen and heard, that will trigger that part of me again. And I'm back in the pattern of the force. And my business used to do it a lot. It was like, oh, the list of things I have to do. I knew better. And I don't even say no better, but you know, I don't always subscribe to Maya Angelou's quote, When you know better, you do better. It's like when you know better, you try to do better as most as best as you can as often as possible. But you know, um, but I used to find myself going unconscious around that too, right? It was like, oh, the list of the things to do, and I got to do, and I'm the doer of all the things, and I make it all happen. And what do and I have you have to snap yourself out of it. This the real work to me is I used to think it was just, you know, my my morning routine, right? But what I found that's become far more powerful for me, especially in the whole like the key is to not go unconscious as much as possible, is really weaving it constantly throughout my day. Because the the healing is only the beginning. You know, you release the trauma, you you know, welcome back the peace of the soul, you know, what whatever the the deeper work is, but then it's constantly choosing higher. Because I've found that even though I'm aware of it and I've released and done the pieces, I still have to walk forward and remind myself of who I am again now. All of it doesn't fall away at the same time for me. And so it's like I was telling a client, you know, it's kind of like, oh, silly me. There I went again. I hopped into old Jana. Oh no, that Jana doesn't do that anymore. And so it's just continuously choosing higher. It's it's it's a release, but then it's a continuous choosing, choosing. And then I think, you know, it does start to settle.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Yeah.

Jana Niksa:

We are integrated.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Absolutely. It's integration always. When we're in this realm, we are surrounded by whether we call it temptation or distraction or just the programming, right? The matrix. Like we're surrounded by it. So it's very human of us to get caught up in it sometimes. If we were just purely our higher self, soul self, and only operating from there, I believe we would be gone from the planet at that point. That's like the choice that we would make is to be not here. So to be here is to have those interactions, is to have those, oh silly me, old Jana showed up. And like, and then you laugh and then you move on and you grow. It's being able to actually notice it and and have that be that observer, you rather than just being caught in it, immersed in it, that unconscious state of you. So getting caught back up in life and the mundane things and the old you and the toxicity and the whatevers, I think is part of the game here. Like we get that. And then it's like, oh, how fast can you move out of it now? How quickly can you get to laughter? How quickly can you get to the lesson here? How smoothly can you get to the lesson this time around? Um, versus like never having that reaction anymore. It seems like that's just the human game.

Jana Niksa:

You know, one thing that I wanted to bring awareness to is, you know, this idea of knowing better, you know, like the Maya Angelou thing that I was talking about before. And not shaming yourself because it's a practice, not a perfect. Because I remember earlier on in my spiritual journey, like I would if I got, if I acted out or if I was angry or slipped into like road rage for half a second, I was like, oh, shame on you. You should know better, Jana. And that wasn't helpful. What I needed to do in that moment is just remember who I'm really am. And I always say, oh, yeah, that's right. I'm pure source consciousness, having a human experience. And that just kind of like clicks me back in to my center and to my grounded. It's like I said, it's a practice, not a perfect. And so adding an element of shame of like, you're spiritual, you're not allowed to ever let your ego, you know, run the show or get mad. Or I mean, ideally, yes, of course, we all aspire to respond and not react. But, you know, sometimes in specific situations, especially when your bucket is really low, we we are all still human. And P.S. We did come here to have a human experience. We did not come here to be like sparkly fairy dust that is just flo frolicking around daisies and love and light all the time. Like we came into duality for a reason. And I do believe it's to transcend, you know, elements of it so that we can have the most optimum human experience without the suffering, without the ego and the control, in the I'm not enough, and I gotta do all the things to be enough stuff, and really be in a place of I'm already whole. You know, I don't think that means that we're gonna just to all poof turn into angels. You it's just it's still both. It's always and that's all. The end, you're welcome.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Yeah. So what are some of the things that you do to continue to remind yourself that you are source consciousness? That you, yes, you can say it to yourself in those moments when you have you slip into old jhana, but just throughout the day, because you mentioned, and I love that phrase, practice not perfect, when we talk about our spiritual practice or um our mystical practice, or you know, these practice, your yoga practice, right? That word is very intentional and carries a lot of meaning, that we are practicing at a something which requires the attention, the discipline, the focus on certain things that will then keep reminding us or align us or connect us, whatever it might be. So, what are some of the things then that you do on the regular that help you?

Jana Niksa:

For me, it started with cultivating awareness, putting it in a bank. And that was a lot of meditation. For at least a year, I was doing it an hour and a half to two hours a day at one point. So I I don't do as much of that anymore. It was like a cumulative effect of cultivating awareness. So I still do it, but it's not what I found over time, Carissa, is that I was also doing it from a place of ego. Oh, I have to do my meditation today. Okay, now I'm gonna journal. Okay, now I'm gonna do my um my pages exercise. And I had to really start the more awareness I cultivated, the more I saw the texture of like some of these things that I had to do and where it was coming from. So I started to cut back on certain things and to really weave it into my day more. So it's not Jana has to journal every day because that's, you know, maybe it's just me looking myself in the eyes in the mirror and just having that moment of like, I'm so proud of you. I love you. And just keeping these different connection points. For me personally, I can't speak for other people, but I had to get to a point where I had enough awareness to remember awareness. And so that's what I mean by there was that accumulative effect of like this bank of meditation hours that I clocked that I think really helped me. So that now I really I check in. I check in a lot. I check in in the morning to see what I need. You know, I check in in between calls with clients. There's always just like this grounding piece or putting my hands on my heart or just taking that deep breath. And it just brings me back and rem and it all comes flooding back really quickly. And so I wish there was like, you know, I can break down some of the things that I used to do, but it's far less regimented now. It's far more flowing. And sometimes just having conversations like this and being fully present in my body and just letting it flow is like a meditation for me. Speaking to other people like you that get it. And then the other thing I will say that has not changed is I am a massive nerd and I watch stuff on this all the time. Like the latest and greatest studies that are like proving that we what we're saying is not woo, but it's actually science, all the way to like, you know, what's happening with the ascension. You know what I mean? But that stuff keeps me also dialed in to that deeper truth. I think it's really different for everyone. But I would say the cornerstones over my life have been mindfulness, meditation, breath work, mirror work. And even though I don't enjoy it, journaling. What don't you love about journaling? I don't write a lot. I really it feel it tires me. I know that sounds silly, but it doesn't, I would much prefer to like voxer or voice record. The the act of writing for me is I think it like brings back school memories. I don't know.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

Yeah. Well, that's a you said a great thing that it tires you. And I think that's a really strong indicator for us. If we are energy, or if we see life and everything that exists here as a density of energy, when we're interacting with things, we're gonna be in resonance, and therefore our energy is gonna feel great because we're getting it back from that thing we're in resonance with, or it's gonna be draining us, or maybe it's even giving us more. That's awesome too. But often people find themselves in very draining circumstances and they feel it energetically, they're drained. You can feel it around certain people, certain job situations, you're doing a specific type of work, whatever it is, right? You we understand what that feels like to feel drained by something. And that's just a great gift from God to be like, okay, not your thing, not your person, not your place, not your job, not your thing. Do things that we actually feel our energy and resonance and that give us as much or even more energy than we're giving it. And then that's a beautiful, okay, great. I don't have to worry, or you don't even have to think, right, about what you should do. Your body, your energy field is going to tell you that. So it's like, uh, journaling's not for you. Like it's draining your energy. That's that's not worth your time, but to record thoughts, record an affirmation. You can even, like you said, free, like you would free writing, but just kind of free voice, just allowing whatever to flow, the flow and come out. And it's only for you. I have tons of voice memos that are just for me. They're, you know, they aren't a start of something or just it's just like I've got a thought of something, and I just want to get it out quickly. And I use my voice memo thing and just blah. I don't even listen back to them. It's just a channel, a vehicle, in order to allow something to process or allow that energy to move. And I think that's beautiful that you use that as an indication of okay, this is the right thing for me. Cause like you said earlier, we are all different. We are all different creatures, and we all get to choose the right things that work for us and don't work for us. That's also life, isn't it? To figure that out. Like, okay, well, what are my things? What are instead of what oh, this guru or this smart person said to do, right? You get to actually tap in and tune into what you say to do, what is correct for you. And that's so powerful, isn't it?

Jana Niksa:

It it really is. And like in actually following it, you know. I mean, I know a lot of us, I know you feel it, those people listening, but do you do it? Like, do you really honor it? And one, it's just like you said, like, is it expansive or contracting? And I always know if I'm in like the checking of the box, let me get it off my plate energy. I'm not in there. I'm not in it. Now, granted, we gotta do somebody's gotta do our taxes. So we got to get that stuff over to them. So there are elements of checking the box in life. We've overcomplicated the system enough that I think right now they're over, they're unavoidable. However, I think some, I believe, actually, because I've done a great deal of thinking about this follow your bliss stuff. And part of the unpacking that I wish more spiritual teachers would do is like, so what that looks like is what we just talked about. Find the way that works for you, but still do the thing. Do the processing, do the healing, do the unpacking, do the quiet time. But but don't do it like you're checking boxes and gonna hand it in for a gold star. Do the piece of it that that lights you up. And that's where that bliss is. So I wish they would be like, follow your bliss most blissful way of whatever it is that you're you're trying to do in that moment. Because otherwise, I think, you know, some people just think, well, I'll just follow my bliss, dance down the road, and hop on a plane. And I don't know, like, you know, and it's like, well, maybe, but also I have children and a family, you know what I mean? It's like, so where is where is the line there? But I think what we have to do is find the most expansive thing way to do the thing that feels like the most aligned. And that's kind of like after having a lot of these conversations, what I've really come to realize it's like, how can I do both again, the and and not this way or that way.

Corissa Saint Laurent:

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